--- type: Article title: Hash Information Disclosure Via Collisions - The Hard Way ha.ckers.org web application security lab description: A thought experiment on using precomputed hash collisions as a fingerprinting oracle. Registering a password and then logging in with a known colliding string reveals which hashing algorithm and salting scheme a site uses. The same trick extends to password blacklist evasion and to databases whose primary key is a hash of known data. resource: "http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20090713/hash-information-disclosure-via-collisions-the-hard-way/" tags: [article, webseclist-reference, ha-ckers-org, side-channel, info-leak, detection, database, owasp-a09-2021] generated: by: webseclist-refs/1 at: "2026-08-09T05:08:09+00:00" status: stable stale_after: 2027-08-09 sources: - id: original resource: "http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20090713/hash-information-disclosure-via-collisions-the-hard-way/" title: Hash Information Disclosure Via Collisions - The Hard Way ha.ckers.org web application security lab - id: capture resource: "https://web.archive.org/web/20101014055550/http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20090713/hash-information-disclosure-via-collisions-the-hard-way/" also_at: [] authors: [] canonical_url: "" cited_by: - "2009.md:21" commit: "" content_sha256: 2c019ef725f552e743dd7214ad70fd2b3814ad2caa5ee4b5c5a99990c3596f5f depth: full depth_reason: default kind: article language: "" licence: unknown original_url: "http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20090713/hash-information-disclosure-via-collisions-the-hard-way/" published: "" publisher: ha.ckers.org publisher_english: "" raw_sha256: 21a8eb794eed7dab3cbdc46621c68947d21b8249c9f2c639af3b9037dbed0e20 retrieved_from: "http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20090713/hash-information-disclosure-via-collisions-the-hard-way/" retrieved_kind: stored retrieved_utc: "2026-08-09T05:08:09+00:00" slug: ha-ckers-org-hash-information-disclosure-collisions-hard-way-ha-ckers-org-lab snapshot: 20101014055550 title_english: "" translation_file: "" translation_of: "" --- # Hash Information Disclosure Via Collisions - The Hard Way ha.ckers.org web application security lab **Hash Information Disclosure Via Collisions - The Hard Way ha.ckers.org web application security lab** - Author not stated, ha.ckers.org. - Published: date not stated - Original: - Preserved from: http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20090713/hash-information-disclosure-via-collisions-the-hard-way/ (stored) on 2026-08-09 - Capture timestamp: 20101014055550 - Licence: unknown Rights remain with the original author and publisher. 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Hash Information Disclosure Via Collisions - The Hard Way ha.ckers.org web application security lab [![web application security scanner survey](http://ha.ckers.org/images/nto_top.jpg)](http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20071014/web-application-scanning-depth-statistics/) Paid Advertising [![web application security lab](http://ha.ckers.org/images/84844372/rsnake/hackers.jpg)](http://ha.ckers.org/) ## [Hash Information Disclosure Via Collisions - The Hard Way](http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20090713/hash-information-disclosure-via-collisions-the-hard-way/) Every once in a while I have those discussions with [id](http://ha.ckers.org/blog/about/) about “what I would do if I were the NSA and had no mission to accomplish.” It could also be called the overgrown “boys with toys” conversation. It typically goes off on tangents where we abuse system resources for entirely impractical applications, and this is no different. Today we started talking about the [PS3 collisions](http://www.phreedom.org/) stuff. Cool indeed. But what if we wanted to use something entirely unrelated to find something that’s barely worth knowing? Ahh, that’s where gigantic [rainbow tables](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_tables) comes into play. Every hashing algorithm has possible collisions once you allow a certain number of chars to be hashed. Let’s say you found out that “bob” and “sam” collided in whatever hashing algorithm. If you created an account on a web server with the password of “bob” and then later typed in the password of “sam” assuming no salts you would be able to get into the system. That’s not all that interesting because you could get into your own account anyway. The vaguely more interesting fact is that you now know what hashing algorithm is being used. Rinse and repeat for every salt (random set of chars preceding, after, or XOR’d typically), every password rule variant (must have upper case, or must have special chars, etc…) and every hashing algorithm (MD5, SHA1, SHA256, double hashed because people think they’re being super clever, etc…) and you have an extremely overkill way to get a very small amount of information disclosure. Yes, what a waste of taxpayer money! The slightly less impractical implication of this is if you already had some collisions that you could use for this purpose you could attempt certain types of brute force against passwords that matched on the backend but were in fact different passwords when applied to a blacklist of typed passwords. Also, you could use these kinds of tricks for other sorts of database collisions where a primary key is a hash of some known data. What a complete waste of resources that are best used for far more interesting tasks, if you ask me. But hey - it’s possible.