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# Weaponizing the Web: More Attacks on User Generated Content

**Weaponizing the Web: More Attacks on User Generated Content** - Nathan Hamiel, Shawn Moyer, Black Hat USA.

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Weaponizing the Web
                           More Attacks on User Generated Content




Saturday, August 1, 2009
                                               Comrades

                                             Citizen: Nathan Hamiel
                                           Senior Consultant - Idea InfoSec
                                     Associate Prof @UAT, Hexagon Security Group
                                      23rd Degree Mason, LavaRolling Enthusiast




                                           Citizen: Shawn Moyer
                                      Principal Consultant - FishNet Security
                           Douchebag with microphone, self-styled Wikipedian
                                   Shot a man in Reno just to watch him die




                                          Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                                 Preview for the ADHD
            ★        Navel gazing and rants
                 ★         Democratization of misinformation
                 ★         Trust, integration, and shared exposure
                 ★         Features arms race, emerging attack surface

            ★        Actual information and content
                 ★         A nifty (we think) approach to an old bug
                 ★         Tool release, ensuing demos o' fail
                 ★         Stupid API tricks and multi-site mayhem
                 ★         Sorry, you have to listen to rants first. =)




                                         Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                                 Voice of the people
             ★       User-Generated Content
                   ★       User-driven, social, collaborative content
                   ★       Blogs, wikis, socnets, web communities
                   ★       Increasingly bolted onto “old” web media

             ★       Integrated, Aggregated, Dynamic
                   ★       Offsite content, syndication, shared APIs
                   ★       Aggregation points, feeds, personal portals
                   ★       Increasing client-side logic (REST, JSON, etc)




                                        Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                  What could possibly go wrong?
             ★       Moot is Time's person the year
                   ★       Lulzy example. Larger problem.
                   ★       Time: “Feh. Internet polls aren't trusted.” Oh.




                                        Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                  What could possibly go wrong?

             ★       Post-MJ celebrity death hoaxes
                   ★  Some “real” news outlets picked up.
                     ★ iReport, uReport, you are on notice.
                   ★ Note: Please stop Rickrolling. Please.




                                  Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                  What could possibly go wrong?
             ★       NYT aggregation fail
                   ★       HTML injection article propagates HTML injection
                   ★       Aggregation, syndication, shared exposure




                                       Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                  What could possibly go wrong?
             ★       DailyKos trolls twittering dittoheads
                   ★       Fake economy / budget numbers
                           ★   $3 million for replacement tires for 1992-1995 Geo Metros.
                           ★   $750,000 for an underground tunnel connecting a middle school
                               and high school in North Carolina.
                           ★   $4.7 million for a program supplying public television to K-8
                               classrooms.
                           ★   $2.3 million for a museum dedicated to the electric bass guitar.




                                           Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                                Shared exposure
                     ★ The emerging socialized web
                      ★ Multi-site aggregation = Attacker ROI
                      ★ Multipoint attack surfaces, APIs, “Digg this!”, etc
                      ★ (n)th-parties and shared exposure


                     ★ “Malware-like” legit functionality
                      ★ Silent updates, presence announcements
                      ★ Offsite links and wrapped external content
                      ★ Try blocking .js for googleapis.com. I dare you.




                                    Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                           Unite for problems




                             Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                           Top BOTSites




                           Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                                      Bolting On fail
            ★       Retrofitting the Thing of The Now
                    ★      More FF fail. No, srsly.




                                         Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                           Exposing Yourself




                             Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                                    Exposing Yourself
                     ★ APIs are the New Hotness
                           ★   Integrate other site functions (Your tweets in my
                               Facebook? Awww....)
                           ★   Hooks into fluffy clouds of amorphous love
                               ★   googleapis, amazonws, others
                               ★   Crossdomain content, sandboxing
                     ★ Two major types of APIs
                           ★   For consumption of application services
                           ★   For integration of app on another site


                                         Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                                        API Stacking
                     ★     Your app is so ugly its APIs have APIs
                           ★   How far away from what we are using do we need to
                               be?

                Application           API       Application    API       Application



                     ★     = WTF. Complexity breeds exposure.




                                        Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                            API as anon proxy
                     ★ Attacks anonymization via shared APIs




                                Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                           no place like 127.0.0.1
                     ★ Hi5 API localhost dev page. Opps1!1




                                Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                                   api Redirect loops
                     ★ Triangle of Death
                           ★   (Rectangle|Pentagon|Hexagram|Octagon) of
                               Death




                                       Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                               now we break some stuff
                     ★ CSRF / Session Riding / XSRF
                           ★   Well understood. Pete Watkins, 2001
                               ★   Often tough to audit for, nuanced
                               ★   Typically described as a “static” attack
                               ★   Per-user forgeries usually only via XSS


                     ★ Can be silly, bad, or really, really bad
                           ★   Our continued move to webeverything(tm)
                           ★   Classical mitigations: Referrer, POSTs, tokens


                                         Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                      do you use a browser for it?




                             Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                           CLASSICAL CSRF




                            Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                           CLASSICAL CSRF (via POST)




                                 Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                                       “Dynamic” CSRF
                     ★ “Dynamic” CSRF.
                           ★   Per-request, per-session, per-user forgeries
                           ★   Watkins described in 2001, but no one noticed
                               ★   Samy, recent bit.ly XSS, other XSS worms
                               ★   Again, well understood as XSS side effect
                   ★ Lots of “complex” CSRF gets ignored
                           ★   POST-based, tokenized, per-user requests
                           ★   Still exploitable, but higher bar
                           ★   <img src=”/password?newpassword=moo”> gets
                               old after the 30 times or so.

                                         Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                                       “Dynamic” CSRF
                     ★ “Dynamic” CSRF.
                           ★   We wanted to automate “complex” CSRF
                           ★   Needed more logic than just redirects / tags
                           ★   Many non-trivial CSRF are ignored
                               ★   Devs often think SOP saves them (it might)


                           ★   See also: http://securethoughts.com/2009/07/
                               hacking-csrf-tokens-using-css-history-hack/




                                         Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                           Dynamic CSRF




                           Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                                      Enter the fist.
                     ★ MonkeyFist: PoC Dynamic CSRF Tool
                           ★   http://hexsec.com/labs
                           ★   Small Python web server
                           ★   Creates payload / patterns based on referrer
                           ★   Automates per-request, “dynamic” CSRF
                           ★   Constructs hidden POSTs, redirects, refreshes
                           ★   Makes requests for tokens or steals from referrer




                                        Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                                  MF Payload Options
                           ★   <PAYLOAD n=”1”> - Payload with number
                           ★   <SITE l=”example.com> - Site entry w/ domain
                           ★   <METHOD> - Attack method (GET, POST, PAGE)
                           ★   <ID> - Session data to grab
                           ★   <TARGET> - URL to send attack to
                           ★   <HEADER> - Header to add to POST request
                           ★   <HEADVAL> - Value for defined header
                           ★   <POSTVAR> - POST Variable name
                           ★   <POSTVAL> - Value for defined POST variable
                           ★   <DESTINATION> - Destination for meta refresh


                                        Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                           Payloads.xml




                           Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                           Dynamic Redirect Attack




                                Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                           POST Construct




                            Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                           Dynamic Page




                           Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                           Fist Full of Fail




                             Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                                    What you just saw
                   ★       MF “Dynamic” CSRF of anon Wikipedia edit
                           ★   Requests were replayable, but unique
                           ★   WPEdittime, WPStarttime, other session values
                           ★   MF requested session values, hidden POST
                           ★   We think this is pretty nifty.
                                                                OMGTHETANS!




                                          Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                                Hrmm.




                           Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
                                        Hrmm.
                     ★ CSRF mitigations are well understood
                     ★ Still, you have to LOTS of things right
                     ★ No bolt on fixes, sorry.
                     ★ Look at your code! Forget SOP.
                     ★ Thanks for listening. Send bugfixes.
                     ★ Nathan’s blog: http://www.neohaxor.org
                     ★ Shawn hates blogs.




                                  Black Hat USA 2009
Saturday, August 1, 2009
