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# Black Ops 2008: It's The End Of The Cache As We Know It

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Black Ops 2008:
It’s The End Of The Cache
       As We Know It
Or: “64K Should Be Good Enough For
             Anyone”

  Black Hat Japan Keynote Edition

          Dan Kaminsky
  Director of Penetration Testing
           IOActive, Inc.
         copyright IOActive, Inc. 2006, all rights
                       reserved.
What Just Happened
              •   There was a really big bug that hit
                  DNS
              •   Industry responded pretty
                  awesomely
                    – Microsoft
                    – ISC
                    – Cisco
                    – Nominum
              •   Security community assisted –
                  stayed quiet while people patched
                  (for the most part)
                    – First finder found it in ~2 days
                    – The idea that a bug can’t be
                        reverse engineered is
                        officially discredited
                          • I tried
              •   Hundreds of millions of users
                  were protected
                    – From what?
Intro to DNS
• System on Internet which maps names (that
  humans understand) to numbers/ “IP
  Addresses” (that the Internet can deal with)
   – Just like 411 information, or the White Pages
   – Numbers change so frequently on the Net, that
     it’s easier to just keep looking them up
   – Almost everything on the Internet depends on
     DNS returning the right number for the right
     request
       • More than you’d think
           – Foreshadowing!
DNS is distributed
•   Three possible answers to any question
     – “Here’s your answer”
     – “Go away”
     – “I don’t know, ask that guy over there”
          • This is delegation. You start with a request, and then get
             bounced around all over the place.
          • 13 root servers: “www.foo.com? I don’t know, go ask the
             com server, it’s at 1.2.3.4”
          • Com server: “www.foo.com? I don’t know, go ask the
             foo.com server, it’s at 2.3.4.5”
          • Foo.com server: “www.foo.com? Yeah, that’s at 3.4.5.6.”
•   Dealing with “ask that guy” (“Delegation”) a lot of work, so DNS
    infrastructure divided into Servers (that run around) and Clients, or
    “Stub Resolvers”, that either do or don’t get an answer
     – BIND = Name Server
     – Your Desktop = Stub Resolver
What about bad guys?
• If everything depends on receiving the right number for the
  right name, wouldn’t a bad guy want his number returned
  instead?
    – Yup
• So when the name server asks ns1.foo.com for
  www.foo.com, couldn’t the bad guy reply first, with his own
  number?
    – Yup
• What’s supposed to prevent this?
    – Transaction ID – “random” number between 0 and
      65535. The real name server knows the number,
      because it was contained in the request. The bad guy
      doesn’t know – at best, he can guess
The Guessing Game
•   Good guy – the real name server – has a 65,536 to 1 advantage
    over the bad guy
     – Those are “long” odds for the bad guy
     – Those are ridiculously short odds by 2008 standards
          • Most web session IDs in 2008 are 2^112 times more secure
              – Too bad they leak, Mike Perry 
•   When the good guy gets his reply in – “wins the race” – he can say
    how long until the next “race”, via something called the TTL, or
    “Time To Live”
     – 1 minute
     – 1 hour
     – 1 day
     – This is how long a given number is “valid” for a particular name.
•   1 day * 65,536 races / 2 = 84.5 years for 50% chance
     – Good luck on that.
And thus, Forgery Resilience
•   Document being assembled by Bert Hubert, author of PowerDNS
     – Was soon to be an Internet RFC
•   Basic concept: Long TTL = High Security, Low TTL = Low Security
     – 65,535 minutes / 2 = 22 days for 50% chance
•   The basic concept is wrong, very very wrong
     – Quote from my Black Hat 2007 talk: “TTL’s are not a security
        feature”
     – The concept implies its opposite, i.e. that the bug I found must
        exist, because there’s no way something not intended to be a
        security feature would ever stand up to attack
           • So Bert delayed his RFC while we fixed the bug
•   However, I had no idea this was under development when I found
    the flaw
     – So what’s the bug?
           • There are three issues – first two were kind of known, the
             last is what’s new
First: If it’s a race, between who can
  reply with the correct TXID first, the
  bad guy has the starter pistol
• Bad guy can force the name server to go run to
  the good guy and look something up
   – It takes time to get the real request (with
     random number) to the good guy
   – It takes more time to get the real response back
     from the good guy
   – It takes no time for the bad guy to immediately
     follow up a request with a fake response
       • Might have the wrong random number, but
         it’ll definitely arrive first
Second, who said the bad guy can
 only reply once
• Winner of the race is the first person to show up with the
  correct random number
• Nowhere does it say the bad guy can’t try lots of random
  numbers
   – He has time – he doesn’t need to wait for anything to
       reach him, because nothing ever will
• If the bad guy can reply 100 times before the good guy
  returns, that 65536 to 1 advantage drops to 655 to 1.
   – Alas…still long odds. And when he loses, he has to wait
       the TTL. That could be 655 days – almost 2 years!
   – Or maybe not.
Finally, the bad guy doesn’t actually
  need to wait to try again.
•   If the bad guy asks the name server to look up www.foo.com ten
    times, there will only be one race with the good guy
      – The first race will be lost (most likely), and then the other nine
         will be suppressed by the TTL
           • No new races on this name for one more day! Here, use
              the answer from a while ago
           • So, can we race on other names?
•   If the bad guy asks the name server to look up 1.foo.com,
    2.foo.com, 3.foo.com, and so on, for ten names, there will be 10
    races with the good guy
      – TTL only stops repeated races for the same name!
•   Eventually, the bad guy will guess the right TXID before the good
    guy shows up with it
      – And now…the bad guy is the proud spoofer of … 83.foo.com
      – So? He didn’t want to poison 83.foo.com. He wanted
         www.foo.com
Bait and Switch
•   Is it possible for a bad guy, who has won the race for
    83.foo.com, to end up stealing www.foo.com as well?
     – He has three possible replies that can be associated with
         correctly guessed TXID
     – 1) “Here’s your answer for 83.foo.com – it’s 6.6.6.6”
     – 2) “I don’t know the answer for 83.foo.com.”
     – 3) “83.foo.com? I don’t know, go ask the www.foo.com
         server, it’s at 6.6.6.6”
           • This has to work – it’s just another delegation
              – 13 root servers: “83.foo.com? I don’t know, go
                 ask the com server, it’s at 1.2.3.4”
              – Com server: “83.foo.com? I don’t know, go ask
                 the foo.com server, it’s at 2.3.4.5”
              – Foo.com server: “83.foo.com? I don’t know, go
                 ask the www.foo.com server, it’s at 6.6.6.6”
Enter The DNSRake
• Named after a common method for lockpicking
• 1) Send a query to a nameserver, for $RANDOM.foo.com
   – The bad guy has the starter pistol
• 2) Send 200 fake replies to that nameserver, with TXID
  0-200
   – The bad guy can reply multiple times
• 3) Send replies containing nameserver redirections to
  www.foo.com
   – $RANDOMwww.foo.com IN NS www.foo.com
      www.foo.com IN A 6.6.6.6
   – If this works, it works
   – If it fails, return to step 1
What’s it look like?
•  1 0.000000 1.2.3.4-> 66.240.226.139 DNS Standard query
  ANY 2465786792ask-dan-at-foo-com.foo.com
•  2 0.000669 1.2.3.4-> 66.240.226.139 DNS Standard
  query response NS ask-dan-at-foo-com.foo.com A 6.6.6.6
•  3 0.001008 1.2.3.4-> 66.240.226.139 DNS Standard
  query response NS ask-dan-at-foo-com.foo.com A 6.6.6.6
•  4 0.001304 1.2.3.4-> 66.240.226.139 DNS Standard
  query response NS ask-dan-at-foo-com.foo.com A 6.6.6.6
   – 5-201 are like 4
   – 202 repeats back to 1
Running the attack…
•   dnsrake 66.240.226.139 1.2.3.4 ask-dan-at-foo-com.foo.com
    63752 6.6.6.6 200
     – 1) IP of my name server, mail.doxpara.com (BIND9, but
       it'll work against anyone)
     – 2) IP of ns*.foo.com
          • Repeat command for each ns*
     – 3) Name I'd like to pollute
     – 4) Fixed source port of my server, leaked by having it
       look up something off one of my own domains
     – 5) IP I want to force people to use
     – 6) Ratio of random requests to spoofed responses
Validating the attack
• # dig @mail.doxpara.com
  ask-dan-at-foo-com.foo.com
  ; <<>> DiG 9.2.5 <<>> @mail.doxpara.com
  ask-dan-at-foo-com.foo.com
  ; (1 server found)
  ;; global options: printcmd
  ;; Got answer:
  ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status:
  NOERROR, id: 59212;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1,
  ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 5, ADDITIONAL: 5
  ;; QUESTION SECTION:
  ;ask-dan-at-foo-com.foo.com. IN A
  ;; ANSWER SECTION:
  ask-dan-at-foo-com.foo.com. 86279 IN A 6.6.6.6
Extending The Attacks
• So that works against pretty much everything in wide
  deployment
   – BIND8/9
   – MSDNS
   – Nominum (with some tweaks)
   – Doesn’t work against DJBDNS, PowerDNS, MaraDNS
• Most commonly offered defense: “Our DNS servers don’t
  accept queries from the outside world. They must be safe!”
   – Can someone ask them to look up www.doxpara.com,
     will they return 157.22.245.20?
   – If so, don’t be so sure
On Bailiwicks
•   1.foo.com is able to return a reply for www.foo.com for a reason
     – “In bailiwick”
     – The root servers can return any record
     – The com servers can return any record…for com
     – The foo.com servers can return any record for foo.com
     – It wasn’t always this way, but then Eugene Kashpureff wanted
        his own TLD (com, net, etc)
          • He just added additional records in every reply for foo.com,
            declaring his own TLD existed
          • Everyone accepted it
     – So the bailiwick system was invented to prevent foo.com from
        declaring anything about com, or some other new TLD
     – (This was 1997, the last time we had a bug this bad.)
          • 2002, Vagner Sacramento’s Birthday Attacks, couldn’t
            override cache
          • 2007, Amit Klein’s TXID prediction, couldn’t override cache
Out Of Bailiwick Referrals, or How To
 Attack Name Servers Behind
 Firewalls
•   DNS doesn’t stop working when you get a referral into another
    bailiwick
     – If foo.com says “Ask that guy over there, here’s his address”,
         and that guy is bar.com, the name server goes back to the root
         and asks: “Heh, I hear I need to look up something from
         bar.com, but I can’t trust the guy who told me to go there.
         Where’s bar.com?”
•   This means any lookup can spawn any other arbitrary lookup, on
    demand
     – 1. Force a lookup to 1.badguy.com
     – 2. Reply with a referral (NS or CNAME) to 1.foo.com
           • This immediately causes a request to be sent to the
             foo.com name server
     – 3. Follow the reply with an immediate stream of fake replies
         from the foo.com name server
•   There are many many ways to do #1
The Many Starter Pistols Of Mr. Bad
 Guy
•   Web Browsers will look up what the bad guy wants
    – Any link, any image, any ad, anything can cause a DNS
       lookup
    – No Javascript required, though h0h0h0 it helps
•   Mail Servers will look up what the bad guy wants
    – On first greeting: HELO
    – On first learning who they’re talking to: MAIL FROM
    – On SPAM check
         • Get worried now.
    – When trying to deliver a bounce
    – When trying to deliver a newsletter (Lyris, ahem, plz
       patch)
    – When trying to deliver an actual response from an actual
       employee
GetHostByName() Considered
 Harmful
•   Web log resolution
     – Reverse DNS – given a connection from 6.6.6.6, PTR lookup to
        www.badguy.com
     – Return a CNAME (alias) with a 0 TTL, to anyone else’s name
     – Each record will now repeatedly look up the attacker controlled
        name, even though the target aliased into has a longer lifespan
•   “Web Bugs” in documents
     – File formats that “call home” to their authors upon reading
     – They’re not just about privacy violation anymore
•   Lots and lots of things in Web 2.0
     – URL attachments
     – Keep getting more worried
Takeaway #1: Protocols Cannot Be
 Understood In Isolation
• Theory: If a name server only resolves names for
  trusted hosts, it will be safe.
• Reality: “Trusted hosts” resolve names for
  untrusted hosts all the time, from other protocols
• It is not protocols that are under attack, but
  systems. If you are not aware of how all the
  protocols in your systems interact, you will
  miss vulnerabilities that are obvious to an
  attacker.
GetHostByAddr() ain’t doing too well
 either
•   IDS/IPS
     – Scan a large network, especially with a lame attack, and something
        will automatically try to figure out who you are
     – When they try to figure out who you are, they will do a Reverse
        DNS lookup on your address, to look up your name
     – Attacker can control the address-to-name mapping
          • Attacker can return a CNAME in response to an address-to-
             name request
     – So:
          • IDS sees a Slammer attack from 6.6.6.6.
          • IDS resolves 6.6.6.6 back to a name
          • Attacker returns a CNAME to 1.foo.com, TTL=0
          • While IDS DNS server tries to look up 1.foo.com, Attacker
             replies with false replies for 1.foo.com
          • If he wins, great. If not, go send another Slammer attack 
     – Technically, you don’t even need to scan with your own IP – you
        know, Slammer from any IP may cause a DNS lookup for that IP.
Takeaway #2: Everything You Do
 Can Be Used Against You
• There is a cost to every action you take, in
  response to an attacker
• You are effectively granting the attacker special
  control over some subset of your network
   – Every response you make is another degree of
     freedom for an attacker
   – This can be a worthwhile tradeoff, but always
     recognize this as a tradeoff!
Another Stunt: Roy Arends’ Trick

• The Microsoft nameserver, when it sent a query to
  the outside world, would accept queries back on
  that particular socket
   – So, you answer a question with a question
   – Roy found this, mentioned it to the dev, it was
     fixed in an unrelated codepath and the fix was
     absorbed with the overall update
   – Nice find, Roy!
Note: People still firewall with
 router ACLs
• The “right” way to firewall: Keep track of outbound requests,
  only accept legitimate responses
   – This requires expensive gear if you want to protect high-
      traffic servers, because you have to keep track of lots of
      state
• The “wrong” way to firewall: Statelessly pattern match IP
  packets, reject those that come from the “wrong addresses”
   – Much easier to do this, especially if there is asymmetric
      routing anywhere
   – Free (already in whatever routers are providing network
      access)
• We’ve been saying this for six or seven years!
Alas…
•   The wrong way to firewall actually works pretty well
• Router ACL firewalls are usually vulnerable to someone
  spoofing their source IP
   – Yes, it’s sometimes possible to pay attention to which
      interface a packet comes in on, but not always
• But most interesting services are hosted via TCP, which is
  relatively spoof-resistant
   – SEQ#/ACK# prevent blind spoofing (well, now they
      do)
Why DNS is particularly vulnerable
 to bad Router ACLs
• DNS is special
   – Hosted via UDP – pure request/response
   – Recurses – a request can spawn another request,
      meaning you don’t care where the response goes
      because you saw a request
• So, if you have a nameserver that doesn’t want to respond to
  a DNS attack, because it’s only doing lookups for a particular
  IP range…you can spoof the range
   – Usually just spoof a neighbor, far enough away to be on
      a different subnet, but close enough to be in the same
      organization
• Note: This works against all rules on DNS servers
  themselves (allow-recursion in BIND, etc)
   – No per-interface data!
Takeaway #3: If It’s Stupid And It
 Scales, It Isn’t Stupid
• A lot of things are being done, “wrong”, because
  they actually work
   – People can nod their head all day at solutions
     that are supposed to be right, but if the
     “technically secure” way barely scales, while
     the “hideously insecure” alternate Just Works,
     it’s the latter you’re going to find in the field
• To secure the network, you must secure the actual
  network, not a theoretical infinite-resource RFC-
  compliant spherical cow 
   – So how did we fix this particular bug?
The “Fix”, As Per DJB: Source Port
 Randomization
• Before: 65536 to 1 odds
• After: Between 163,840,000 to 1 and
  2,147,483,648 to 1 odds
• This is an improvement
   – That’s a lot of traffic to go unnoticed, and
     undefended by secondary measures
      • Not necessarily too much
• So why not go with something “perfect”?
This is not a simple attack.
•   One reason there were so many questions about exactly what went
    wrong, is because there were so many variants
     – Probably a good 15 ways to run this attack
     – Family 1: Pure TTL Bypasses
         • Override glue w/ NS record (the “attack”)
         • Override glue w/ CNAME
         • Override glue w/ DNAME
         • Override glue w/ extra in-bailiwick glue
     – Family 2: Prevent the authoritative server from populating the
       cache
         • Ask for a nonexistent query type
         • Ask for a nonexistent query class
         • Ask for a nonexistent sibling name in bailiwick (cnn.com)
         • Just flood it with some huge amount of traffic
Florian Weimer / Brian Dowling’s new
  PowerDNS attack
•   In short, PowerDNS does not respond to certain queries it
    considers malformed. This in itself is not a problem, and was even
    thought of as a security measure. Brian and Florian, independently I
    think, have discovered that not answering a query for an invalid
    DNS record within a valid domain allows for a larger spoofing
    window of the valid domain. Because of the Kaminsky-discovery,
    this has become bad. For a sophisticated attacker, this provides no
    benefit. However, such a long window allows unsophisticated
    hackers to achieve better results.
     – Bert Hubert, PowerDNS
•   Basically, recursive resolvers would pass a query to PowerDNS,
    which it authoritatively would ignore. This meant that there was an
    infinite window – the other guy wasn’t even in the race
And Keep Going…
• Other methods
  – Any query type whose response is not cached
  – Anything that causes the cache to clear
  – Abusing naturally low-TTL records
     • Facebook: TTL=30
     • Google Analytics: TTL=300
  – Abusing IDS systems that block if they see an
    attack (2005 Black Ops)
And then there’s the problem of
 sibling names
• Some people are trying to bring TTL’s back
  – to assert that, if the TTL is 2000, then an
  attack will not work for 2000 seconds
• This has a fatal weakness
   – 1.google.com
   – 2.google.com
   – 3.google.com
• Can we ignore that fatal weakness?
On The Web, Sibling Domains Have
 Power Over Real Domains
• Toorcon Seattle: Used
  malicious injected
  subdomains to
  compromise main site
   – Instead of injecting
     subdomains via ad
     servers, now we
     just inject via
     1.facebook.com
     etc.
Takeaway #4: It’s not enough to
  solve 99% of the problem, if the
  last 1% is really really important
• You don’t have to be perfect, you just have
  to be good enough
  – But if you don’t secure the web, you
    aren’t actually good enough
So what are the ground rules?
• 1) We must secure all names, not just “most”
• 2) We must secure all authoritative name servers, not just
  those that opt in
   – This eventually gets relaxed with DNSSEC, but that’s not
     a solution for today
   – This does mean that we must secure the link to the root
     servers, and the com servers, without actually requiring
     root or com to update anything
       • If root or com is busted, then we never get routed to
         our “secure” name servers
• 3) We must not alter the semantics of DNS
The “One Character” Patch
• One character patch was proffered, which would lock the NS
  record for a given name for however long the TTL was set
   – “What’s the downside to my patch ? I guess we are now
     holding an authoritative server to the promise not to
     change the NS record for the duration of the TTL, which
     is kinda what the TTL is for in the first place ”
• Problem: This changed the semantics of DNS
   – Before, we’d get an updated nameserver for Google.
   – Now, it will take 95 hours.
   – If you think any IT infrastructure would ever deploy
     anything that threatened a 95 hour outage, you’re simply
     wrong.
Takeaway #5: It is more important to
  work, than to be secure.
• You don’t have to like it.
• Maybe it’s right, maybe it’s wrong.
• At minimum, you’ll get vastly increased patch
  delays.
• Realistically, you’ll get vastly decreased patch
  rates.
   – Attacks from bad guys might happen.
   – Failures in every day operation will happen.
      • Any failure that might take a month to show
         up is worse than a failure that can be tested
         and proved non-existent immediately.
Can we do better?
• There is indeed some demand for a fix better than
  port randomization, but short of DNSSEC
   – It’s theoretically possible to receive the
     hundreds of millions to billions of packets
     necessary to still attack through the patch
       • Most attackers don’t have GigE on the LAN,
         but bandwidth is only getting higher
   – DNSSEC breaks the ground rule of working
     against arbitrary authoritative names
       • Still interesting.
• What can we do, that still meets the ground rules?
Comprehensive Options
•   Attack Mode
     – The name server can detect the gross imbalance
        between requests sent and responses received, and
        apply protections specifically to the name servers that are
        under attack
     – If someone is under attack, apply “extra validation” to
        names from their IP during the attack
•   0x20
     – DNS is case-ignoring but case-preserving, meaning a
        name like www.google.com can be represented also as
        wWw.GooGle.cOM w/ 12 bits of extra entropy
     – Only accept responses with the correct
Exception Handling
•   Alas, there are exceptions.
     – If you fail to handle the exceptions, you fail the ground
        rule on changing the semantics.
•   Attack mode exceptions
     – What does it mean to apply “extra validation”?
          • Double querying usually works, but nothing actually
            forces a name server to reply with the same name
            twice in a row
               – Akamai, Google, Facebook often won’t
          • It’s not enough to secure most names 
     – There are some possible other solutions but they’re in
        progress
More Exception Handling
• 0x20 Exceptions
   – Some authoritative servers aren’t case-
     preserving after all
   – Some names cannot be protected with 0x20
      • 1.a111111111 gets only 1 bit of protection
• Any solution beyond port randomization will
  require the mixing of multiple approaches
Takeaway #6: Elegance is less
 important than coverage.
• One should be as elegant as possible, but
  no more.
  – If the choice is between elegance, and
    supporting real-world scenarios that
    customers require, elegance will lose
    every single time
So, is that all?
• No. That’s HOW to attack DNS. More
  interesting question: WHY to attack DNS.
We Start With The TLDs
•   It is indeed possible to pollute com, net, org, etc.
     – Directly: com NS
     – Indirectly: A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET, B.GTLD-
         SERVERS.NET., C.GTLD-SERVERS.NET…
•   When the bad guy poisons com, he gets all requests
     – Even requests he didn’t know in advance he wanted!
     – He gets to decide:
           • What he’ll poison forever (response, long TTL)
           • What he never wants to see again (delegation, real
             NS)
           • What he’ll check out for a little while (response, short
             TTL)
MX Intercept: It’s Not Just For the
 NSA Anymore
• Mail is special – has its own type of record
   – MX – Mail Exchange
• Attacker who owns com, can see who’s sending
  mails to who, and can pick off any he likes
   – Can silently intercept, then let the mail run off to
     its correct destination
      • Give himself top priority, fail to fully accept a
        message, then let the message fall through
        to the next server
Message Pollution
• 1/3rd of attacks come from direct user action
   – Loading a document
   – Downloading and installing malware
• Attacker can also accept a message, infect attachments with
  malware, and forward it along
   – DOC -> Infected Doc
   – EXE -> Infected Exe
   – ZIP with Password containing EXE -> ZIP with Password
      containing Infected EXE
        • Attacker can read 
   – Link to EXE -> Link to infected EXE
        • Attacker can either change link, or poison link in
          destination
Takeaway #7: Never Forget The
 Human Factor
• Again, 1/3rd of attacks come from direct user action
    – Users are asked to escalate privilege all the time
    – Worse, attempts to prevent users from escalating
      privilege lead only to users abandoning all security
      measures entirely
        • Block all .PL files -> Flood of password-encrypted
          ZIP files
• Defenders cannot optimize away the users, much as they’d
  like to
• Attackers will not ignore the users, not with their 1/3 failure
  rate
    – Anything that can make the success rate even higher will
      be jumped on
Shouldn’t The SPAM Filter Stop This?

• SPF should notice the wrong IP
  – SPF comes from DNS
  – All SPAM filtering comes from DNS
  – Can actually hijack SPAM filters –
    attacker ends up controlling mail
    reception entirely
Not going there, but…
• SIP ain’t looking too great either
   – SRV records are easily detectable
   – SIP INVITE/REGISTER messages look like
     they can contain DNS names – triggering a
     lookup in target networks
       • If you have an environment that explictly
         uses DNS name contacts, you might even
         be able to choose your intercepts
• Thanks to Zane Lackey
Spidey Sense
• Obviously the entire web is affected, for a client behind a
  corrupted DNS server
   – Can directly poison via com corruption
        • Requires rebinding to read actual site contents
   – Can indirectly poison a single site via its subdomain
      library dependencies
        • Prototype.js
        • CSS scripts
   – Can indirectly poison the entire web via google-
      analytics.com, ad.doubleclick.net, sitemeter, or any other
      codebase commonly loaded via an external <script src>
      tag.
   – Hope you’re not downloading any executables from the
      web…
• (But SSL will save us!)
The Internet is more than the Web;
 HTTP is more than the Browser
•   Welcome to the third age of hacking
     – 1st age: Servers
         • FTP, Telnet, Mail, Web, Time
         • These were the things that consumed bytes from a bad guy
         • These are the things that got locked down
     – 2nd Age: Browsers
         • Javascript, ActiveX, Java, Image Formats, DOMs
         • These are the things that are getting locked down
             – Slowly
             – Incompletely (ActiveX Sitelock to http:// doesn’t work
                too well right now)
     – 3rd Age: EVERYTHING ELSE
         • Check out this desktop from an Internet Cafe
We’re no longer in
browserland anymore…
Remember Sidebar from Last Year?
This is not an exception
• Browsers are really really good client code
  – Relatively 
  – They’re so much more complex than
    anything we ever put on the server
  – We’ve been trying to secure them for far
    longer
• What do you think happens when you fuzz
  weak clients?
Ilja van Sprundel, dumb fuzzing IRC
   with ircfuzz.c
•   * ircfuzz v 0.3 by Ilja van Sprundel. * so far this broke: - BitchX
    (1.1-final) * - mIRC (6.16) * - xchat (2.4.1) * - kvirc (3.2.0) * - ircii
    (ircii-20040820) * - eggdrop (1.6.17) * - epic-4 (2.2) * - ninja
    (1.5.9pre12) * - emech (2.8.5.1) * - Virc (2.0 rc5) * - TurboIRC
    (6) * - leafchat (1.761) * - iRC (0.16) * - conversation (2.14) * -
    colloquy (2.0 (2D16)) * - snak (5.0.2) * - ircle (3.1.2) * - ircat
    (2.0.3) * - darkbot (7f3) * - bersirc (2.2.13) * - Scrollz (1.9.5) * -
    IM2 * - pirch98 * - trillian (3.1) * - microsoft comic chat (2.5) * -
    icechat (5.50) * - centericq (4.20.0) * - uirc (1.3) * - weechat
    (0.1.3) * - rhapsody (0.25b) * - kmyirc (0.2.9) * - bnirc (0.2.9) * -
    bobot++ (2.1.8) * - kwirc (0.1.0) * - nwirc (0.7.8) * - kopete
    (0.9.2)
•   Things are a little better now
      – Not much
      – You really really don’t want to be talking to a malicious IRC
         server
           • Lets not even talk about netsplits
Lets not forget about the biggest,
 most extensive clients out there
•   Games
     – Gaming - The Next Overlooked Security Hole
        • Ferdinand Schober,
           Security Researcher
     – We're now seeing those unifying technologies the web,
       and monolithic engines making their way in to these
       games. Automatic updates, electronic publishing
       systems, in-game advertisements, pay-for-item
       MMORPG systems all of these represent structural
       weaknesses that more and more people should be
       exploiting. Given the expectation of today's gamers a far
       as graphics, physics, and other frivolous crap, smaller
       developers have to purchase someone else's engine to
       get started and all of the bugs that come with it.
Who needs an exploit? Lured by
 design, upgraded by design
• Francisco Amato’s EvilGrade
   – Implemented modules: ------------------- - Java
     plugin - Winzip - Winamp - MacOS -
     OpenOffices - iTunes - Linkedin Toolbar - DAP
     [Download Accelerator] - notepad++ - speedbit
   – Bigger companies than I thought. But
     otherwise, yeah, we knew this was going to be
     a problem
   – Actually warned LinkedIn in advance
Autoupgrade Is Hard
•   To succeed, your update package must be:
     – Signed.
     – Signed by you.
     – Signed by you, using the right EKU (Extended Key Usage)
     – Signed from an unrevoked signature
     – Be the same product
     – Be a new version
•   Or you could use SSL, but ZOMG PERFORMANCE
•   Translation: Must be Windows Update, or you’re hosed 
     – Maybe Adobe. MAYBE.
     – See also: “Secure Software Updates: Disappointments and
        New Challenges”, Bellissimo, Burgess, Fu
Takeaway #8: Code that’s never been
  attacked, is usually remarkably fragile.
• Web browsers got hit, web browsers got fixed
• Web servers got hit, web servers got fixed
• Exploitation appears to cause an increase in code
  quality, directly in the code that’s attacked, and
  indirectly in all peer software
• Most code has never been attacked, therefore
  most code is pretty fragile
   – Depends on having never been exposed to
     attack
   – But exposure changes over time.
But what of SSL?
• Theoretically, DNS poisoning shouldn’t matter,
  because everything important is protected by SSL.
   – Nothing big should ever touch HTTP!
• This is the first big test of SSL
• Has it stood up because of the strength of its
  crypto?
• Or has it stood up because nobody had the
  opportunity to play MiTM?
SSL Problem #1: It’s Not
 Particularly Widely Deployed
• Pretty much only financial sites support 100% SSL operation
   – Takeaway #3: If it’s stupid and it scales, it isn’t stupid
   – We’re really really good at making the web scale without
     SSL
       • SSL needs work to make it scale better!
       • How did we end up without virtual hosting
         support, by default, mandatory, in TLS?
• We won’t bank without SSL, but we will download
  executables in the clear
   – This of course makes no sense.
   – Takeaway #7: Never forget the human factor.
SSL Problem #2: Users Ignore
 Errors
•   Again, Takeaway #7: Never
    forget the human factor
•   41% of users admit to ignoring
    “security alert” messages
     – Source: Consumer
        Reports
•   Actual data: When a major
    online bank in New Zealand
    had its cert expire, 99.5% of
    users still entered their
    credentials.
     – DNS-based attacker has a
        remarkably high success
        rate
SSL Problem #3: Even when we will
 use SSL, we arrive at it insecurely
• http://www.paypal.com redirects to https://
  www.paypal.com
• http://www.bankofamerica.com redirects to https://
  www.bankofamerica.com
• http://www.e-commerce-site.com redirects to
  https://checkout.e-commerce-site.com
• If you’re an attacker, and you control the HTTP
  version of a site, where will you send users?
   – Probably not to the version of the site that
      cryptographically authenticates.
SSL Problem #4: Most sites leak
  credentials otherwise acquired via SSL.
•   Mike Perry’s research with Cookie Monster
•   Summary: HTTP is stateless, even when run over SSL. But
    nobody wants to type in their password on every query, so we get a
    “cookie” that represents our identity.
     – If the cookie is marked “secure”, it will only be transmitted to
        SSL (read: not DNS poisoned) endpoints of sites
     – Are enough sites protected?
          • No
          • http://fscked.org/blog/incomplete-list-alleged-vulnerable-
            sites
               – Scary, scary list
•   Note, even sites with secure cookies can have those cookies
    overriden by an attacker, since HTTP can write HTTPS secure
    cookies (!)
     – Adam Barth / Collin Jackson’s research
SSL Problem #5: Many Non-Browsers
  Don’t Actually Validate Certs!
• Again, Takeaway #8: Code that’s never been attacked, is
  usually remarkably fragile.
   – The Internet is more than just the Web – but SSL is
     generic!
   – This was supposed to be a strength
   – But it turns out that many of SSL’s strengths are only
     enforced via previously exploited web browsers.
• 327,467 SSL certificates were scanned
   – 140,355 SSL certificates were self-signed – 42%!
   – That’s not even saying the other 58% are signed by a
     trusted CA!
• So who’s using these self-signed certs?
Mike Zusman on SSL VPN’s
•   The only purpose of an SSL VPN is to prevent bad guys from
    getting access to network traffic. Do they? Mike:
     – “Yes, you will see many SSL VPN servers on the Internet
        serving invalid certificates.

       Cert validation varies product to product. One particular
       SSL VPN client I've worked with is hardcoded to only accept
       valid, trusted certs. If it is not signed by a trusted CA, the
       cert needs to be added to the local trust store. Another one
       allows you to turn validation on and off.

        None of the clients I've seen do any caching/white listing
        (like an SSH client). This way once you have the SSL VPN
        client installed, you can connect to ANY server you need to
        seamlessly. Great for re-purposing attacks.”
•   In other news, go read Mike Zusman’s notes on SSL VPN’s. He
    is doing some very important work.
SSL Problem #6: The Certificates
 Are Still Signed With MD5
• It’s 2008, and we still base the security of SSL on
  an algorithm that was:
   – Academically discredited in 1996 by Hans
     Dobbertin
   – Federally discredited in 1998 by NIST
   – Publicly collided in 2005 by Xiaoyun Wang
• And still, everyone’s going to be so surprised and
  unprepared when it finally breaks completely.
SSL Problem #7: Revocation Is A Myth,
 Especially For The Debian Case
• The browsers barely check for certificate
  revocation
   – Takeaway #5: It is more important to work,
     than to be secure.
   – Revocation “works”, but is still too slow.
• Non-browsers outside of .GOV environments don’t
  even pretend to check revocation.
The Debian Problem is particularly
 worrisome
• Nobody has an efficient solution for Luciano Bello’s
  Debian bug, where a few badly generated keys are
  spread across some huge number of Certificate
  Authority signed names
   – Bloom filters across all the vulnerable moduli are
     still too large 
• Anyone who thought to collect all the certificates that
  were badly generated, can impersonate all those sites,
  and will be able to for approximately the next five
  years.
Takeaway #9: There is no bug so good,
  that another bug cannot make it better.
• People want there to be some sort of competition
  between bugs, as if attackers could only choose
  one so they better choose wisely.
   – The reality is that attackers can blend whatever
     they like, and have
      • Nimda, from 2001, combined email, share
        pollution, IIS exploitation, and browser bugs!
• So many of the attacks described thus far – from
  Zusman’s to Perry’s, from Wang’s to Bello’s -- are
  made far more problematic by having a real world
  MiTM vector.
You’d think that would be obvious,
 but…




•   What is this “OR” you speak of?
•   What, I can only use one bug at a time?
•   DNS provides the Man-In-The-Middle that breaks Package Managers!
•   It’s not a “bug competition” not because of some ethical limitation, but
    because it blinds you to actual vulnerabilities when bugs are combined
SSL Problem #8: Certificate
 Acquisition Itself Depends On DNS
• Why do you think SSL certificates are valuable?
  – Anyone can buy one
  – Anyone can generate bits
  – What prevents anyone in the audience from
    getting a cert for www.microsoft.com?
• CA’s sell bits
  – But there’s some meaning applied to those bits
    – an assertion that an identity has been
    validated, at least to some level
  – How are identities validated by most CA’s?
Say Hello To My Little Friend
• Domain Validation: How SSL Certificate Authorities use DNS
  to determine whether you get a certificate
   – Look up the domain in WHOIS
       • DNS address lookup
   – Send an email to the mail address on file
       • DNS MX record lookup
   – Visit the web page and look for a file
       • DNS A record lookup
• Guess how secure that is in the face of a DNS attack?
Hello My Little Friend
• Actually, we’re doing OK
   – For some reason, every CA scrambled during
     the month of July to make sure that they were
     patched
       • Thank you, Tom Albertson, Kelvin Yiu, Zot
         O’Connor of Microsoft 
       • Thank you Verisign, Comodo, Digicert,
         Trustwave, everyone who kept this matter
         secret
• www.SSLShopper.com figured it out…but they
  think the answer is to buy EV certs.
  Unfortunately…
And what about EV?
• EV is a display mechanism, not a code security mechanism
   – Extended Validation. The browser’s scripting policy does
      not distinguish between HTTPS connections that use an
      Extended Validation (EV) certificates from those that use
      non-EV certificates. For example, PayPal serves https://
      www.paypal.com/ using an EV certificate, but a principal
      who has a non-EV certificate for www.paypal.com can
      inject script into the PayPal login page without disrupting
      the browser’s Extended Validation security indicators;
      see Figure 2.
        • “Beware of Finer Grained Origins”, Collin Jackson,
          Adam Barth
• So, no. EV does nothing in the face of also-extant Domain-
  Validated Certificate
What Else Is Interesting?
• CA’s have web interfaces to manage
  previously issues certs…
  – …web interfaces you have to sign into.
When I said The Web was
 broken, I wasn’t talking
 about just its clients.

 (confused?)
Welcome to the Skeleton
 Key.

 It’s By Design.
Forgot My Password Modes
•   This is a generic lost credential technique
     – Generally, a fully automated way to get into an account
       without the password
         • Near-universally deployed
     – Three modes seen in the field
         • 1) Password Leak: Just mails you your password.
            Somewhat uncommon.
         • 2) Reset Password: Mails you a link that resets your
            password. Guarantees detection of attack. Most
            common.
         • 3) Reset w/ Additional Protections: Mails you a link,
            and makes you jump through hoops. Somewhat
            common on high-value sites.
     – #1 and #2 are trivial to pop (though #2 has side effects).
Attacking Forgot My Password
 systems
•   It’s just an email, meaning, it forces a lookup to an attacker
    controlled name
      – What did we need, to pollute com?
      – This means any lookup can spawn any other arbitrary lookup,
          on demand
           • 1. Force a lookup to 1.badguy.com
           • 2. Reply with a referral (NS or CNAME) to 1.foo.com
           • 3. Follow the reply with an immediate stream of fake replies
              from the foo.com name server
•   Not complicated. After poisoning, request password for arbitrary
    account
      – It will do an MX lookup
      – You will see the MX lookup
      – Game over 
News
•   Fixed (beyond just the CA’s)
     – Google
                                   • This is very, very
     – Live                          cool. Thank you
     – Yahoo                         to all the
     – Paypal
     – eBay
                                     companies who
     – MySpace                       worked with me
     – Facebook
                                     on this!
     – LinkedIn
     – Bebo                           – Ow my cell
     – Craigslist
     – LiveJournal
                                        phone bill 
     – Hi5
     – Citrix (GoToMyPC)
Reality Check
• No way we got everyone




• But we did ok.
Would OpenID have helped?
How did Stikis find the “friend”?
 Hint: DNS
What of OpenID with HTTPS?
• Should be fine…
   – Alas: Ben Laurie found that a couple major
     OpenID providers were using HTTPS…
      • But with a Debian misgenerated certificate
      • DNS + OpenID + Debian NRNG = WIN
• *glorious*
Takeaway #10: Flawed Authentication
  Is The Unifying Theme Of 2008’s
  Major Bugs
• Specifically:
   – Weaknesses in authentication and
     encryption, some which have been known to
     at least some degree for quite some time
     and many of which are sourced in the core
     design of the system, continue to pose a
     threat to the Internet infrastructure at large,
     both by corrupting routing, and making
     those corrupted routes problematic.
Going Down The Line
•   My DNS: Failure to correctly authenticate DNS reply.
•   Perry’s Cookie Monster: Failure to deliver authentication blob to
    secure endpoint.
•   Zusman’s SSL-VPN’s: Failure to authenticate foreign endpoint
•   Bello’s NRNG: Failure to synthesize unique authentication
    material.
•   Laurie’s OpenID: Failure to synthesize unique authentication
    material on a centralized authentication platform
•   Amato’s Evilgrade: Failure to authenticate update packages
•   University of Arizona’s Package Manager flaws: MORE failure
    to authenticate update packages
•   Pilosof’s BGP: Failure to authenticate the data supplied by an
    authenticated BGP peer
•   …and what about Hardakar’s SNMPv3 bug, probably the single
    coolest auth bug in years?
On Hardakar’s SNMPv3 Flaw
•   SNMPv3 – Simple Network Management Protocol, Version 3
     – Useful mechanism for monitoring and maintaining infrastructure
•   SNMPv3 uses a fairly standard challenge-response authentication
    system
     – Server provides the challenge
     – Client provides a response, via HMAC
     – All good so far…
•   Client can declare how many bytes his response needs to get
    correct.
     – Client can declare he only needs to get 1 byte right.
     – There’s only 256 possibilities…
•   So yes -- yet another auth bug – but this one chains with DNS in
    interesting ways
     – Lots of infrastructure is behind firewalls – can’t break SNMPv3
        without getting past them.
     – Can DNS help?
Let Us Discuss The Inconvenient
 Matter Of Reverse DNS
•   You know, we also own in-addr.arpa
     – This is the space that, when you look up 1.2.3.4, returns
        “a.b.c.d.com”
•   What can you do with this?
     – Obvious: Spoof log entries in Apache
          • Apache Double-Reverse Lookup Log Entry Spoofing
            Vulnerability
               – Martin Kraemer, 2002
          • Apache will log the name that reverse DNS provides, if that
            name resolves back to the same IP
               – Well, we control both forward and reverse DNS, so heh
          • May even be able to fake numeric TLDs…
               – 6.6.6.6 IN PTR 1.2.3.4
               – 1.2.3.4 IN A 6.6.6.6
               – Possibly (probably) stopped by client side APIs
                   » Never assume an API is every smarter than it had to
                      be to ship
Lets Party Like It’s 2007
•   Black Ops 2007: Possible to use browser plugins to connect to internal
    resources behind firewalls
     – You browse to my site, I get TCP, maybe UDP, to your site
          • Flash
          • Java
     – Flash secured this with crossdomain.xml, per IP address
     – Java secured this with…reverse DNS
          • Which we own.
          • I can has 1.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa!
          • Full TCP and UDP from any browser in your org, to any host
            behind the firewall, if you don’t patch DNS
               – And have Java
               – Bonus: IPsec!
          • Note: You don’t get 127.0.0.1, because 1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa
            has an authoritative record on most servers.
               – MAY get per-interface bind though…
          • To get 127.0.0.1 out of Java, see John Heasman’s talk
And thus, SNMPv3
• If you can spoof arbitrary UDP packets,
  behind the firewall, you can spoof arbitrary
  SNMPv3 packets too
  – Have you patched against the SNMPv3
    bug?
• Takeaway #9: There is no bug so good,
  that another bug cannot make it better 
Spreading The Phun
• If you have arbitrary socket access…
• …then you can spew packets on Port 53…
• …then you can scan for more name servers
  behind the corporate firewall…
• …and you can poison Internet DNS.
   – Maybe.
   – Can be hard to poison certain kinds of internal
      DNS deployments
       • If internal is all-authoritative, there’s no
         records to poison
When Internal DNS Goes Bad
•   So much bad behavior behind the firewall, all directed via
    DNS!
     – Telnet
     – SNMP – queries and traps
     – Auth servers (RADIUS/TACACS)
     – Backup/Restore
     – SOA architectures
         • Resolve back to names, DNS determines addresses
     – Backend Databases
Even if internal DNS is hard to hit,
  external dependencies are fair game
• So many connections between companies
   – DNS controls how the servers find each other
   – The link might be secured
      • If SSL is used – is anyone actually checking
        the certificates?
           – Are you sure?
      • If IPsec is used – is it tied to destination
        subnet?
           – DNS changes destination subnet,
             therefore DNS can change IPsec rules.
The ultimate external dependencies
•   Payment processing / Offsite backup
     – Now is not a good time to have an insecure link to your offsite
       stores
     – I’m not saying anyone does. But if there’s a scintilla of a chance,
       patch patch patch
•   SNMP against the Internet
     – If you are using SNMP to log into machines on the Internet, you’re
       probably using DNS to find them
          • Interesting interactions with SNMPv3 bugs?
•   Search Engine Population
     – There’s Search Engine Optimization, and there’s this
•   CDN population – CDN’s are populated by:
     – Providing the CDN a URL
          • Uses DNS, pulls data
     – Treating the CDN as a proxy
          • Uses DNS, pulls data
     – It would be really, really bad if Akamai etc. DNS went bad
Summary
•   DNS servers had a core bug, that allows arbitrary cache poisoning
      – The bug works even when the host is behind a firewall
      – There are enough variants of the bug that we needed a stopgap before
          working on something more complete
•   Industry rallied pretty ridiculously to do something about this, with hundreds of
    milllions protected
•   DNS clients are at risk, in certain circumstances
•   We are entering (or, perhaps, holding back a little longer) a third age of security
    research, where all networked apps are “fair game”
      – Autoupdate in particular is a mess, broken by design (except for Microsoft)
•   SSL is not the panacea it would seem to be
      – In fact, SSL certs are themselves dependent on DNS
•   DNS bugs ended up creating something of a “skeleton key” across almost all
    major websites, despite independent implementations
•   Internal networks are not at all safe, both from the effects of Java, and from the
    fact that internal routing could be influenced by external activity
      – The whole concept of the fully internal network may be broken – there are
          just so many business relationships – and, between IPsec not triggering and
          SSL not being cert-validated, these relationships may not be secure
      – We’re not even populating CDN’s securely!
Meta-Summary
•   Takeaway #1: Protocols Cannot Be Understood In Isolation
•   Takeaway #2: Everything You Do Can Be Used Against You
•   Takeaway #3: If It’s Stupid And It Scales, It Isn’t Stupid
•   Takeaway #4: It’s not enough to solve 99% of the problem, if the
    last 1% is really really important
•   Takeaway #5: It is more important to work, than to be secure.
•   Takeaway #6: Elegance is less important than coverage.
•   Takeaway #7: Never Forget The Human Factor
•   Takeaway #8: Code that’s never been attacked, is usually
    remarkably fragile.
•   Takeaway #9: There is no bug so good, that another bug cannot
    make it better.
•   Takeaway #10: Flawed Authentication Is The Unifying Theme Of
    2008’s Major Bugs.
Lessons Learned
•   We have to get better at fixing infrastructure.
     – We got lucky with this bug.
     – The next one will not be so “smooth”
     – Disaster recovery planning needs to include how to handle
        the discovery in a flaw in any mission critical code anywhere
          • Servicability needs to start becoming a more important
             purchasing metric.
          • Servicability is, ultimately, the measure of software flaw
             survivability.
•   Cooperation across competitors, and researchers, can indeed
    be very productive
     – 120M users from just one infrastructure provider
•   A lot of people just do not realize the degree to which security
    best practices have been ignored for years
     – DNS should not have been capable of this much damage.
     – It was. Why?
Bottom Line
• We are doing a lot of things insecurely.
  – Even with DNS fixed, there are other
    scenarios in which unencrypted IP traffic
    is lost to an attacker
  – That attacker is capable of way more
    than he should be.
     • More than I’ve even said here.
